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28/10/02

 

JF: In a minute were talking to the wonderful Jason Isaacs, who plays the totally evil, the worst villain of all, Lucius Malfoybut first heres a sneak preview of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. 

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JF: Oooh I like you like that. I like that hair! (Jason laughs) Thats a wig presumably; you didnt grow it like that. 

 

Jason: No, I did, I grew it. I had three weeks and a lot of Baby Bio and sunshine. It was fine.

R & J laugh
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Jason: My face is false unfortunately!

 

 JF: I actually thought that the Kenneth Branagh part, which was Gilderoy Lockhart in the book, hes much more foppish. I thought hed have more hair like you.

 

 Jason: I got there first in the hair department. 

 

(R and J laugh) 

 

RM: Listen mate, its my wig! 

 

Jason: I put my claim in. The thing is, Im an old school wizard and Gilderoy is trying to conquer the whole world. Hes very keen on selling books anywhere he can. 

 

RM: Its astonishing though, how hair totally reframes and changes someones face. Weve got three pictures of you here that we did on the computer earlier. 

(They show the pictureswhich all look awful!) 

 

Jason : Oh dear 

 

RM: Weve got you as Beckham

which is good,
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Oozy Osborne, which also works
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Jason: Very nice 

RM: And Bobby Charlton with the comb over
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not so good

Jason: Thanks very much. Yeahcant waitnot too far away Im sure. 

 

JF: Youd never read the Harry Potter books had you? You werent an aficionado? 

 

Jason: No I hadnt. I thought it was rather odd frankly that a lot of my grown up friends were suggesting childrens books for me. 

 

RM: Yes, I did too. 

 

Jason: And then I got offered the part so I thought Id better see how many of these things I get to appear in and bought all the books, and I started reading, and I looked up and it was three days later and I hadnt washed and I hadnt eaten and I hadnt done any chores, and they are just fantastic. They are unbelievable! 

 

RM: The sequel to a good film in a series is the one where you know whether the rest of them are going to work or not and you just said to us off camera Its a cracker. Well, really youre just saying that because youre in it arent you? 

 

Jason: Well, its just unbelievable. Ive just done four or five days of press for Japan, Korea, and West Melbourne TV and stuff, and I was very professional and said how good it was, and how exciting, and I hadnt seen the film. And they had a special screening for me yesterday and I dragged my relatives and friends in and godchildren, and it was FANTASTIC! And what was great about it was that me and my six-year-old godson and my brother, who falls asleep in everything Ive ever been in, we were all on the edge of our seats. We were screaming at the same time, we were laughing at the same time, and you know, its not often that six year olds and I have a lot in common, but I just thought it was really exciting. And it finished and I was covered in sweat (JF laughs) and its very, very. Its thrilling to put it mildly. 

 

RM: Is it dark? I mean the books slowly get darker. Is it darker than the first film? 

 

Jason: Well its much scarier. The laughs are bigger and the thrills are bigger, you know, its a roller coaster ride from start to finish. And I know thats the kind of thing actors normally say but I have to tell you I am rabidly enthusiastic about this film. Im so excited to be in it and I cant wait to see it again. 

 

RM: Well, fair play. 

 

JF: And the kids, the boys especially, have really shot up. We had Rupert Grint on a few weeks ago and his voice has broken, and Daniels voice has broken too I believe. 

 

Jason: Daniel has a full beard now, down to his knees. 

 

(R and J laugh) 

 

Jason: Theyre all growing up, I mean Emmas growing up as well. Thank God, because the characters are growing up. Its quite weird because some of the journalists have been going Youre in trouble now, those children are growing. Well, I tell you, theyd be in real trouble if they werent growing. It would be very strange. And as the books take place, each book theyre a year older. 

 

RM: Its sequential. Thats right. 

 

JF: Yes, they will go up until the time theyre ready to leave school. 

 

RM: Its not like Dennis the Menace or Just William, where theyre frozen in time. The books progress in that way. 

 

Jason: Well thats one of the great things about the film because you see these characters, and not only the actors are older but obviously the characters are a bit older, and their friendships stretch back further and theyre having much bigger adventures.

 

RM: As an actor it must be fantasticI mean its great being in a hit and its great being in a film thats big and thats publicised big time around the world, but it must be fabulous to be part of something which everybody talks about and that we all like, and a real phenomenon. 

 

Jason: All that is true, but actually Im still kind of aglow from yesterday. Its great being in a film thats this good. I mean its not a hit yetno-ones seen it 

 

JF: It will be 

 

Jason: Its fabulousyou know what was also nice is you dont often get the chance to play a wizard, and stick hair down to your bum on, and have a wand and a cape, and make things fly across the room by waving your hand. I mean obviously you two do, but it doesnt happen to me in my profession. 

 

(R and J laugh) 

 

JF: Its awfully sad about Richard Harris. Incredibly sad.

 

Jason: Yes, it was very odd for us because, you know, weve been publicising this film the last couple of days, and Richard died in the middle of it. I mean its very hard to beits not hard to be sad, but memories of Richardwhen I think about Richard he made everyone laugh so much. He was such a fantastic raconteur and just such a twinkly mischievous presence. Im absolutely sure he wouldnt want people to be miserable. I mean he just relished every second of his life. 

 

JF: And he was actually quite self-deprecatory wasnt he. He couldnt stand anyone saying acting is a terribly difficult, wonderful profession, He was always saying no, it was a really good time. 

 

Jason: Whats interesting about Richard was that people want to talk about the fact that he drank a lot or had adventures and was always in the newspapers, but I was lucky enough, privileged enough, to do some scenes with him and of course all those things we know about him, we know because he was a brilliant actor. In the end he did his job so superbly that we got to learn about his private life. But he was a sensational actor. 

 

You know, I got to the set and was very intimidated, because here was this guyI went to drama school with his son Jared and so I was already terrified of him, because he came to see us at Central (Central School of Speech and Drama, London) and it was change your underwear day when he came. 

 

And hed sit and tell these great stories and then theyd call action and suddenly I was looking at Dumbledore, and here was this guy that, you know, wanted me out. 

 

JF: When I first heard that he was going to play Dumbledore, I thought oh hes not quite twinkly enough for it but he was fantastic. 

 

Jason: Ahhe was sensational  

 

RM: But also theres that dark side to Dumbledore and as you say when youre opposite him presumably the tension between the two characters is enormous. 

 

Jason: Richard was a very tough guy, and Dumbledore was a very intimidating figure and it raises the stakes slightly when you play a scene with a man like that. 

 

RM: Was it you who said that hed be up till four in the morning, having a great time, telling everybody jokes, keeping everybody laughing, and then even if he wasnt on camera the next morning, if you had a scene, hed come down at eight oclock and read your lines to you? 

 

Jason: I didnt get to beI meanthere was this one famous night when he held court all night long and Alan Rickman, and Ken Branagh and Maggie Smith sat there till dawn listening to his stories, but I wasnt there unfortunately that day, but the ripples were still going on when I got there. But I did get to sit there and had to be dragged across to the set, because his stories stretched back for decades and he had perfect recall and cracking timing. Even in death he had perfect timing. 

 

RM: (shakes Jasons hand) Great to see you again 

 

Jason: Thanks very much 

 

JF: I cant wait to see the film

 

Jason: Now, youre going on Sunday arent you? 

 

JF: We are 

 

Jason: Now Ill tell youyour kids are teenagers arent theyand I thought that maybe teenagers are too old for the film but I took two teenagers yesterday, who reluctantly dragged their heels in and they loved it. They are going to have such a good time. 

 

JF: The excitement in our house is palpable 

 

RM: The last time was Black Hawk Down wasnt it? 

 

Jason: It wasmuch less hair last time. 

 

(R and J laugh) 

 

Jason: Its all about the hair really. 

 

(R and J laugh again)